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Finally. A real start. Plans are for a period-appearing 1982 with select upgrades for performance, safety and longevity. I'm going back with the SR5 stripes, and I even have a factory "roll bar" to complete the look...jury is still out on that one, though.
I'm planning 2 or 3" lift to clear the crossover steering with IFS box...a much needed improvement to the push-pull. FJ rotors and third gen V6 calipers are definites, too. I have a W56 5 spd, but debating that - the factory 5spd may be okay for mainly street duty this one will see. 33-10.5 KM2s - something narrow enough to look stock from 10 yards away, but the extra height will compensate for the added fender clearance from the lift - on factory first gen spoke wheels. I have a set of white and a set of chrome, so that decision will come when the body color is final. Also have pieces/parts to make up a gray/black OR a blue interior...that will be decided on which color dash pad I can find.
But the story started 3 years ago... when I bought a SOLID frame near Farmington...had it sandblasted, then a good coat of Rustoleum primer and Gloss black.


Then I sold little Blue...which was no longer Blue but a nice Pinto Bean brown.
So I sold the frame. Fast forward 2 years and I see an ad on NC4x4...yep, same one. Kyle picked it up for me near Raleigh and met Justin somewhere between there and Lenoir.
A few months later, I found the main donor rig. An 82 SR5, it was a pretty loaded truck in its day - a/c, tach/gauges, bucket seats (still had the small console inside). A lot of goodies left, including complete and uncut woodgrain dash inserts and a mint grill & headlight assembly. They're not the round eyes setup I was planning, but the parking lens are as clear as the day they rolled off the boat. Fenders had ONE small dent - and the straightest valance panel I've seen.


Then, around the first of October, Shawn called me with "something I might like for that First Gen project" I had been talking about. A 22R with a FRESH rebuild...nice header, complete from water pump to bell housing...all except the carb.

I had to go to furniture market, but two weeks ago we went to have a look and ended up bringing the whole truck home. (Truck was rolled and a second gen cab and bed replaced the old...but she's all first gen underneath.)

Bonus of axles, 5 spd w/top shift case, IFS steering box, another set of 1st gen rears, and my third 1st gen frame (still have the longbed frame I got from Max who got it from Dawg on that little yellow truck he was working on). Also scored a nice set of chrome SR5 First Gen wheels...the fifth one is near perfect with a factory spare tire...NO cracks, NO rot...even has the small red and blue lines around the tread surface.

Yea, I know, no one will know it's there 'cept me.
Then the hard part - the search for a decent First Gen bed. I bought a pretty good long bed here in Lenoir:

and I was getting ready to start the prep work on the longbed frame - but I have a line on a much better short bed that looks promising...and that is the last major piece of the puzzle to really get things moving. I have a PILE of parts in the basement from several years of "hey, that looks good - I need to hang onto that for my First Gen project", so it's finally time to make something happen.
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ohhhh man... thats gonna be saaaawwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!! Shock

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Thanks Daylon.
Here are two that are along the lines of what I am thinking:



I've been looking around at new colors and really like the "Vermillion Red" from the 2010/2011 Ford F350. Red body with Charcoal/Gray/Silver SR5 stripes, gray interior and the chrome SR5 spokes would be hard to miss.

Edit: Changing of the mind #2010.001: going back White with silver/gray/charcoal SR5 decals, Black/Gray interior.

Edit: Changing of the mind #2010.002: going Silver with silver/gray/charcoal SR5 decals, Black/Gray interior.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:50 am Reply with quote
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this excites me. can't wait to see it finished...

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This is going to be very cool Grant. I would love to have something like that myself to putt around in. Keep the pics coming.

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i like the blue ones graphic but that red is where its at!

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This project just made me go from 6 to 1:30. I vote red/grey/silver/charcoal. However I still think the LS1/4L80 combo on FJ80 axles and 35" KM2's would still be coolest for a restomod project.

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StretchASU wrote:
This project just made me go from 6 to 1:30.


Come on Stretch, you know you haven't seen past about 8:15 in a few years.

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Laughing nah. Jason's mom is still around from time to time.

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StretchASU wrote:
Laughing nah. Jason's mom is still around from time to time.



Fact!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:37 pm Reply with quote
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A VERY productive day...Jeff spoke to ToyotaDad at the ECORS race. David had a friend with a nice first gen shortbed for sale...I called earlier this week, he sent pics, we set the pick-up, and I started off around 8 for a road trip to Winston Salem. You gotta love pulling off to the shoulder of I40 in downtown WS to re-do all four tie-downs, but it was an uneventful trip the rest of the way home - and 421 was a great road on a day like today.
Here's a shot off 421 on the way home:

Here are a few driveway pics:


I had spoken to David and Steve and had seen pics, but I was still very surprised at just how good this bed is...the tailgate has one small quarter-sized rust spot at bottom left, but is otherwise in great shape - opens perfectly and take a look at the condition of the hinges:

Just one problem area (pass front corner) thanks to a factory rollbar, but I can patch this with pieces from the other bed:

and then a little love from Steve's last trip with the bed to Devil's Playground:

Steve also included a NICE pair of taillights - AND a pair of ROUND EYES bezels and lens...I soaked them for a couple of hours and they really came out great:

I really got lucky on this one...thanks to Jeff and David - and Steve. This was an awesome find and things should hopefully pick up from here.
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nice find grant...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:28 pm Reply with quote
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A good holiday weekend for the project. I made a trip to Shelby Friday evening to see Robert and brought back a 22R carburetor, complete air cleaner assembly, and a great 79-81 grill assembly. Thanks!
The biggest part of Satuday was spent on Blue's cooling system - a 50/50 success result - still no heat, but at least she was buttoned up, no leaks, and had a good percentage of antifreeze for last night's temps.
This afternoon, bact to the First Gen - I started the disassembly of the cab. I removed the windshield, fenders, doors, back window, and a lot of the interior trim.


Next steps are to strip the engine compartment, remove the dash assembly, and then chisel/grind/pray away all of the floor insulation. Then, it's off for floor repair, blasting, bodywork and paint. I'm planning to have bodywork completed and paint the engine compartment, cab interior, under the floor, and jambs...basically have everything except the exposed body painted so I can mount it on the frame. I plan to assemble everything this way, so I can have a running chassis before it's off to body shop for the final body application. (Looks like $225 for a new windshield and gasket - anyone know a better deal?)
I found the "First Gen Pics" thread on YotaTech and found this great looking and much-simplified engine compartment:

And this good looking, very clean first gen:

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looking good! I cant wait to see it finished up. Are you going to run the hose from the Exhaust heat shield to the intake?

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Grant, get some dry ice and set it on the insulation. It will make it really brittle and will usually break right apart leaving behind little residue.

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I know where a perfect windsheild is

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I've made a lot of progress in the stripping of the cab...all of the major items have been removed, and all I have left are the firewall brake lines and a lot of miscellaneous clips and small brackets. I should be able to have it out of the basement and on its back on the trailer in the next couple of days. I'm thinking that this week's temps in the teens and low 30s will mimic Stretch's dry ice suggestion in helping ease removal of the floor insulation.

With the cab outside, I can set the frame down on jackstands and see where I need to start there. It needs a good wash and some touch-up on the black, but I don't see that happening unless we luck up and get that 50 degree Sunday afternoon.

And a BIG score today at work. I lucked up and was in the right place at the right time. I think it was originally an office machine stand as it is heavy duty with four casters, an 18 x 24 top, and adjustable height...it was already a big help tonight.

Set me back $5.00 - I don't think I got hurt too bad.

But man, there sure are a ton of pieces, brackets, bolts and wires that will have to go back. A little overwhelming - and a LOT more complicated than the 76 CJ5 I did a few years ago.

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keep it up grant. an air chisel works great for the cab gunk, just keep it parallel to the work surface. nice find on the cart...

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Call me. Zack works at a parts house now, and can get a windsheild for 136, with new moldings.

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Not as bad as I feared, but not as good as I had hoped...started removal of the insulation above the "trouble areas':



Lower sections of the body mounts appear to be in good shape - just surface rust. But the floor panel above the mounts is gone. But, that will be one "double wall" area that will be easy to get to...sandblast, treat, seal. Then, we're all going to find out just how close a second gen cab floor is to a first gen:

This is the floor of the 84 cab that came with the other engine/rolling chassis...no rust-through, and a lot of the area I'll be using as a patch has already been stripped of the insulation. Heck, if the measuring tape is kind, I may just replace the whole floor.

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Nate, children will sing your praise for a thousand years for that "air chisel" recommendation. I was able to remove all of the floor, firewall and back wall insulation in a little under an hour. I'm thinking Stretch's hint of dry ice helped as well...I opened the basement door and let the cold air in this evening...it was quite cool on the concrete floor, but the insulation really broke off well in chunks.

And, does anyone have any ideas on how to salvage these side panel trim pieces?

They are paper thin...you can see where the driver's side panel broke in two coming out. The pass held together, but it is cracked in a couple of places. I can't do much reinforcement due to the spacing and how it has to fit around the shoulder harness and under the edge molding. I am thinking of a putting on a single layer of fiberglass mat on the back, then a light coat of resin over the front. I may try a cheap bottle sprayer with thinned down resin, and spray on multiple light coats to strengthen the front side...gotta work fast, but it keeps the grain pattern. Any experience or other ideas? I got two really good kick panels out of Justin's new cab...just a few cracks, so I'm hoping the fiberglass will do the trick there, too.
Anyway - brake lines, wiper motor, and a few odd brackets in the engine compartment, and she'll be ready to go outside this weekend. Then, it's on to the frame touch-up and preparation for suspension, brake and fuel lines, etc.

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glad it worked out for ya Very Happy

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Have you done some trimming or removed the whole fenders? What did you do to the other truck parts? The last post seems like there were some rusty areas in the rig. Wonder how your build went?
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